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marcelo403 polo
Good job buddy!!!
The Wood Craftsman
Thank you! Scott
Arvid Podsim
I have not attempted shaping the arch in either the rail or panel without first trimming down with a band saw. I purchased a complete set of Weaver Crown templates with the sleds on eBay several years ago and purchased for around $300 with the thought that I would have good use in building cathedral doors. Only ran a few rails and panels to date to test. Shaping panels I found to be very dangerous with the raised panel cutter on the bottom yet alone have the panel cutter inverted as in your video. Guess cathedral doors are no longer in demand. Perhaps my eBay purchase will last until they come back into style.
Great video as I have not seen any others on YouTube on this subject.
The Wood Craftsman
I will admit, the first I hogged out a top rail or a panel like I did here, I was a bit nervous and skeptical. In previous jobs, I’ve used an overhead pin router to follow the template and trim the rails and panels to the pattern with the pin router right next to the shaper, and I’ve also worked in a door cell for a large company where we had a shaper setup for every task and we never roughed out the rails or the panels. I didn’t feel confident that the rails wouldn’t tear out upon the exit of the radius so that’s why I used a straight cutter to rough out the arch first. Oh, I also started with the Weaver jigs, they did two kitchens for me in 1999 and 2001. In 2003 I got the Panel Crafter jig with a boat load of templates. In 2004 I built my brothers cabinetry for his new house. The jig sat idle until November of last year where I needed to make on arched door for a tall add on pantry for this exact kitchen that this cabinet was for. So I rarely ever use it, but I wouldn’t be without it. Thanks! Scott
Josh Searl
nice job thanks for showing us
The Wood Craftsman
Thank you! You are welcome! Scott
Josh Searl
@The Wood Craftsman i like the way you make your door, when i get a shaper i will set it up that way
Billysplinter Billysplinter
What brand cutters do you use, and are they insert type they give an excellent finish and breeze through hard materials. Love this channel keep em coming.
The Wood Craftsman
I use insert tooling mostly, but I had used some odd ones that were braised carbide tipped (known mfg) for these doors. The insert tooling I use is from a company in Granger Indiana called Dimensions In Tooling (DIT). They are a small made to order company that specializes in custom made to order tooling at close to stock pricing with no minimum order. The cope and stick set I used in this video was DIT. All of my standard cope and stick sets, my standard raised panel for doors and matching drawer front panel, and out side edge profile cutters are from DIT. Cope and stick inserts are around $15 each and I believe the raised panel are around $18.50. The insert pricing is based on the carbide blank size. As fare as the cut quality……..the cutters them selves run very smooth, and chipping and tearing are not really an issue. I typically stick at 26 FPM at 7000 rpm in all species (birch, cherry, oak, soft maple), but only 13 FPM in hard maple, and thats mostly because I don’t want to risk chipping the end upon exit. I’d recommend DIT to anyone in North America. Thanks. Scott
Billysplinter Billysplinter
The Wood Craftsman thanks Scott for taking the time with reply. I’m carpenter and have recently replaced a router table withe a small moulder. Purchased some cheap carbide tip sets which are ok, but like the idea of inserts. Will check out DIT.
One last question will one cutter block accept cutters for different profile doors? Shaker ogee etc.your vids inspire me to want to get better results in my garage/shop 😀
Red Mart
I made exactly the same job.last week.was my 1 time.i was soo nervous.
The Wood Craftsman
After you do it once or twice, you feel more comfortable because you know the capabilities and limitations of the equipment. Thanks. Scott
Bill M
I just found your channel the other day and I’m enjoying watching your videos! You do some nice work! 👍🏻 Thanks for sharing!
The Wood Craftsman
Thank you for the kind words! I’m glad you like it! Scott
tractortinkerer11
Nice video. Currently making a tall pantry for the kitchen, however current doors a re cathedral top. Probably will have to make new cabinet doors square. Thanks for the info.
The Wood Craftsman
Not a problem. Thank you! Scott
Clinton Caraway
Could you share where you got your copeing sled? Please!!
The Wood Craftsman
Hi, I built it myself. However, there is another commercial one similar to it, made by Wynmatic. I believe it’s called the CoprAvator 70. Last I saw it was around $700. For what I have invested for materials and time, I could have bought it.
Rusty 373
Awesome skills as always!!! Thank you for putting the time in for these amazing videos!!!
James Douglas
Would you be interested in making two more I have the exact situation above fridge
my cats
The finished product looks beautiful. I know it’s gone out of style, but I still love that style.
The Wood Craftsman
Thank you! I agree. Scott
my cats
@The Wood Craftsman Back in the 80s my father and an older friend custom built our cabinets out of oak. My father only knew how to make shaker style flat panel doors so that’s what we ended up with. Really wish we’d known how to make this style back then.
Marty Schlosser
Scott, wow, another great video. I am making cathedral arched top raised panels for the first time, but am making the template myself. My question relates to how to go about getting the arch on the rail to match the shape of the panel itself. I’ve tried using a compass to trace the panel 5/8″ back from the panel edge to get the shape, but for some reason things aren’t working out. Any suggestions you’d have for me? Again, thanks for the excellent videos. Very much appreciated.
The Wood Craftsman
First of all, thank you for your kind words. So, I know exactly what you are talking about with the geometry, but I myself can’t even explain it either. I can tell you that your approach is correct, but I don’t know the actual distance. All if mybtenolbate commercially made, and on the cathedral templates, they are not a perfect match from rail to panel which has something to do with the geometry. You mighrb ant to look online for some templates to get you through and maybe future use. I can’t btnink of any off the top of my head, but it to do a search for arched cabinet door templates you’ll find them. I was thinking Infinity, Sommerfeld, or Wood Haven might be the brands. Rocklers or Woodcraft would also probably have them. I don’t recall a book that I have called something like “Cabinetmaking” by Udo Schmit has a chapter on arch door templates latout. I apologise that I couldn’t be of more help, but the truth is, if I didn’t have the commercial jig and templates, I couldn’t make these doors either. Scott
Marty Schlosser
@The Wood Craftsman Thanks for getting back to me, Scott. I’ll see if I can come up with an answer myself, as I’ve already made all 7 of the gravestone arched panels, and they’re to my own design. Notwithstanding, I’ll do a search for the book you mentioned to see if he may have some insight into how best to do it. Again, though, please keep your very informative videos coming as I learn so much from them. Marty
Marty Schlosser
@The Wood Craftsman Scott, I checked my local library and came up empty handed. But online, the only book I found by Udo Schmidt was “Building Kitchen Cabinets: Taunton’s BLP: Expert Advice from Start to Finish” published by Taunton Press. Does that one ring a bell?
Fairley Blankenship
What kind of shaper bit did u use to make these ?? I have this style of cabinets in the house I bought but can’t find them anywhere to buy .. so we have to have them made but nobody has the bit
The Wood Craftsman
Sorry, its all custom made tooling.
Fairley Blankenship
@The Wood Craftsman How can I get what I need to have them made that style??
The Wood Craftsman
I’m not sure how to answer this in a short form. If you don’t have the jig’s or the tooling, it’s very difficult. As I mentioned, the tooling used was custom. These doors could probably be made with a router table and a good router bit set at a minimum. There are companies out there that specialize in building cabinet doors (Taylor Craft, Walzcraft, Fleetwoods, Keystone Wood Specialties, Cal Door, just to name a few). Custom tooling for a shaper is expensive, the raised panel cutters alone are around $500, and not to mention, the jig for machining the arches is around $1000. The raised panel profile, and the frame inside profiles are a pretty common stock profile for a lot of shaper cutter and router bit companies, the outside isn’t as common, but there are some very similar versions. Unfortunately this isn’t a very simple woodworking project.
David Allen jr
Love your set up, I need the machinery on a smaller scale. I have the templates.
jeremy kinsey
I use a mitre push block on a 3 hp Grizzly.. This just seems like to much.. I’m talking open spindle on a free hand jig..